Lei Wang
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| 2:52:00 PM Friday, May 04, 2007
You are right Johnny, I didn't design the shoe.
I have some other photos of LiNing's latest Damon Jones 3 and another Shaq signature shoe. I will post them soon. |
Lei Wang
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| 2:59:00 PM Friday, May 04, 2007
Damon Jones 3
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Lei Wang
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| 5:12:00 PM Friday, May 04, 2007
Chuck Hayes wearing the LiNing Shaq shoes.
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Lei Wang
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Travis Peterson
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| 8:31:00 PM Friday, May 04, 2007
Is it wrong that I think those shaq shoes are pretty sweet? lol..I just really like the design and the uniqueness. |
zhang shou wen
(36)
| 1:00:00 AM Saturday, May 05, 2007
hi: wang lei where are u in ? in fu jian of china ? i want tell u something leave a massage to me plz z6521379@yahoo.com.cn thx |
johnny szabo
(890 )
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| 2:54:00 PM Saturday, May 05, 2007
Thanks for those pics, Lei, man I'm lovin what Li NIng is doin. Really well designed shoes. Those Damon JOnes's are better then a lot of Nike's. The outsole is really really cool. The Shaqs are a bit too much for me, but they suit Shaq just right. |
Rich Benares
(644)
| 1:43:00 AM Sunday, May 06, 2007
Travis: Why would it be wrong? A well designed shoe is what it is. If I find a shoe I like design-wise, I usually get them be it at a discount store, the mall, or even Walmart - Yo Ryan, whens the release date on your kicks? :) Just love shoes man, price point and brand come a far second
R1ch |
Tony Hardman
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| 5:18:00 AM Sunday, May 06, 2007
Yo, those Li Ning joints are pretty nice! Some nice details and pattern work going on...I'm impressed!
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johnny szabo
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| 4:19:00 PM Sunday, May 06, 2007
A rendering by zhang shou wen:
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Travis Peterson
(123)
| 11:15:00 PM Sunday, May 06, 2007
Rich: It was definitely meant as a joke, I agree if I like the design of a shoe and especially if its unique I will buy it, wherever it's from. |
Rich Benares
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| 11:41:00 PM Sunday, May 06, 2007
Trav: I know you meant no harm bro. Yeah man a great shoe is a great shoe, swoosh/jumpman or not :)
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Christoph Döttelmayer
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| 9:52:00 AM Monday, May 07, 2007
Paul!
see I´m back posting :-) |
noe fargeon
(34)
| 6:09:00 AM Tuesday, May 08, 2007
hello everybody There is not anybody to make to me a translation of the (Contest (May): Soles) with simple words? |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 10:15:00 AM Tuesday, May 08, 2007
design an outsole of a shoe
simple enough:-)
cheers noe |
Rich Benares
(644)
| 2:35:00 PM Tuesday, May 08, 2007
Design a sole..similar to my excellent example. lol
I LOVE PAINT!
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johnny szabo
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| 3:17:00 PM Tuesday, May 08, 2007
Thats opretty serious R1ch. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 3:28:00 AM Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Hej guys!
All I can tell you is that there are some hot things coming from K1X! better look out !
cheers |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 3:39:00 PM Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Hmm I was wondering, if Justin or Dwayne are checking out this forum, maybe they can help me out. Or anyone that knows, except no one knows....whats I.E. short for in the 11 I.E.'s????? |
Paul Erdmann
(22)
| 5:46:00 PM Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Yeah Christoph, I see you.
I`ll write you that email with some tips in a minute. How`d you like the coffeemaker? |
Ryan Holler
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| 5:58:00 PM Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Can you say "CONTRADICTION"?
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Travis Peterson
(123)
| 10:02:00 PM Wednesday, May 09, 2007
HAHA. Hmm now that's interesting. Hot cement print..
just kidding. |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:40:00 AM Friday, May 11, 2007
Hmm, that is really interesting, seen a couple of Bird shoes, man, the design doesnt have much to it if you ask me, one word, they aint nice. And they dont look like those tipical higy preformance bball shoes. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 7:04:00 AM Friday, May 11, 2007
Thanks Paul for your mail, I´ll write you back as soon as I have time!
The coffemaker is great, the leather and all the other details, great idea!
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Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 7:06:00 AM Friday, May 11, 2007
So now I finally gotta get something out,
My work is great at K1X, I can tell you that, a pitty I can´t tell you what I´m working on, but it´s great! It´s a lot of fun here, all the people are very nice and there for I gotta say thank you finally KG for beeing able to be part of that site and seeing that miracles really happen, even when you don´t expect it!
This site was the starting point for my passion for shoe design and now beeing able to learn all the things about it at a company like K1X is unbelieveble, I got so many thing to learn and I´m so looking forward to the future to do that.
thanks KG
cheers from Munich
C. |
Ben Adams-Keane
(184)
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| 1:10:00 PM Saturday, May 19, 2007
Hey Guys,
Here's a quick ZK2 design that grew from some doodles I did. Nothing special, just something I threw together.
Feedback Welcome!
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 3:37:00 PM Saturday, May 19, 2007
I'm seein good stuff in there Ben. One thing I dont like all that much, si how the whole shoe seems to point upwards, you kno what I mean? The shapes building it up all extend upward, which if you ask me, which gives it a feeling as it if were a chimney or somethin. But nice sketch! |
Ben Adams-Keane
(184)
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| 4:07:00 PM Saturday, May 19, 2007
Thanks Johnny. I see what you mean about the lines extending up.....but a chimney?! lol.....I don't really get that comparison I guess. Thanks for the comment. |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 3:32:00 PM Sunday, May 20, 2007
IT's the first thing that came to my mind that works its way upwords, kinda dumb reading it now...lol |
Mark Miner
(195)
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| 9:47:00 PM Sunday, May 20, 2007
Hey Ben
I see you have posted on a nike considered shoe. was this an example of how you were thinking of constructing the shoe? I think if you ever get a chance to see that shoe in person there are some interesting construction details. To me on the design will comment more when have more up on it, but initial is that it looks more like a evolution then a revolution. meaning seeing much of the past design language in this one and not much a departure.
interested in seeing more and where you take it. something with a considered/ construction/ environmental story could be something. (keep in mind performance)
be easy
Mm |
Ben Adams-Keane
(184)
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| 10:19:00 PM Sunday, May 20, 2007
Hi Mark,
I originally did this sketch/design before pics had surfaced of the ZK2, but the rumor had come out that it would be a considered shoe, so I decided to incorporate that.
I totally agree about this not being a revolution. This was just something quick that grew out of some doodles, so I didn't put much thought into it being innovative or not. I'm currently working on a much more thorough/innovative design. Once I finish that, though, I might go back and work on this a bit more. I think I might ditch the Kobe aspect of the shoe, I think it would be cool to have a considered basketball shoe all on its own.
Thanks for the comment
Ben |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 1:21:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Here are some sketches I out together recently. Some critics would be good, maybe MArk,, Tony anyone if you got time to take a look. Here are some sketches inspired by this seasons Gucci ready to wear line.
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johnny szabo
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| 1:30:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Here are some more, this was inspired by the Philip watch I recently got for my B-Day, just sketches though! PLease critiq!
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tim awalludin
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| 4:36:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
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tim awalludin
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| 4:36:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
wow, sorry bout that. ive been gone a while. |
Tony Hardman
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| 6:50:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
LOL...Tim...what the hell is that?! |
Rich Benares
(644)
| 10:10:00 PM Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Heh nice... JordanXDC |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 11:11:00 AM Thursday, May 24, 2007
johnny
what up man!
i like your sketches,the one one the right hand corner on the upper picture with the orange background looks bst, but you gotta work on your shape, i told you that, i know it´s hard, damn when i look at my designs sometimes they make me crazy, a good thing to do is just turn you paper around and hold it against the sun or light and then looks at the shape of your design, shoe whatever, that really helps!!!
K1X is great, Munich is great, man I love it, except the germans, ya they are alright but us Austrians don´t like the germans, especially I don´t but Munich is more likely like Austria!
The work is great, the whole surrounding here is wonderful, talking about shoes and clothing all the time and trying to improve everything! just great and maybe you kkow but you can order or buy other things from Kickz too, for expample I was holding the Zoom Kobe II for the first time in my hands today! man I gotta get it soon, that shoe is awsome!
So I will keep you up to date what´s going on here, hopefully I´ll find some time for the Air Jordan XX3 theme, that is the best!
so keep it rollin´
cheers from K1X
C. |
tim awalludin
(200)
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| 1:24:00 PM Thursday, May 24, 2007
hah, sorry. you saw em rich? if you could, help me post it? it's a little on the amateur side but i liked the idea.
jordan 23 theme, epic, can't wait.
missed you guys.
now i'm back.
while i was gone i was just kickin around with some little things.
ya dig.
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tim awalludin
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| 1:35:00 PM Thursday, May 24, 2007
nvm rich. hope this works...
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 3:40:00 PM Thursday, May 24, 2007
Wow, thats somethin fresh Tim.
Cool, good to hear you like it up there Christoph, yeah I'm just looking at those now, and some are way off, but some are ok, kinda funny.... |
jrodan foster
(7)
| 9:57:00 PM Thursday, May 24, 2007
those are krazy i would buy them even if they were 500$ |
Mark Miner
(195)
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| 12:05:00 AM Friday, May 25, 2007
Johnny
Gucci ready to wear. sounds interesting, would be helpful to have some shots of what you were talking about and then some explanation of what you were inspired by and then describe how it was developed into your designs.
^same comments goes for the watch, would be helpful see the watch an know what about it and your designs.
I know they are just loose thumbnails, but working on some of the proportions I think would make these designs communicate your ideas more clearly.
keep us posted on updates if you plan to proceed with these.
be easy
Mm
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:04:00 AM Friday, May 25, 2007
Thanks for the feedback, for the Gucci, here are some pics, I got ideas from just the shape of the patterns, which you'll probably be able to reconize. Also the straps on the front of the clothes, came up as inspiration and the colours although I didnt colour all my sketches.
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:05:00 AM Friday, May 25, 2007
Couldnt find anything on my watch, just yet. Thanks for the feedback!
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Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 3:10:00 AM Friday, May 25, 2007
Johnny, remeber that Apple Shoe design I showed you, that was kidn of like that too! |
jrodan foster
(7)
| 1:23:00 PM Friday, May 25, 2007
KG
i think u should make a Contest for beginners cuz i no im not as good as most and i know other people feel just like me i think it would be kinda kool |
chris withrow
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| 8:46:00 PM Saturday, May 26, 2007
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chris withrow
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| 10:26:00 AM Sunday, May 27, 2007
Second time putting something on. Tell me what you think? |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 4:08:00 PM Sunday, May 27, 2007
Nice,, amke the toebox a bit thicker and give it some colour and you've reached a pretty good rendering. |
Lei Wang
(267)
| 3:48:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
Li Ning Shaq - Hayer version
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Lei Wang
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| 3:48:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:49:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:49:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:49:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:50:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:50:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:51:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
DJ 3
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Lei Wang
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| 3:52:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 3:53:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
(267)
| 4:25:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
AI 11
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Lei Wang
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| 4:25:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 4:26:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 4:26:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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Lei Wang
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| 4:27:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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| 4:28:00 PM Tuesday, May 29, 2007
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:35:00 PM Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Thats a typical Shaq shoe. Those DJ3 are actually pretty good, something I might actually cop. The AI's man I dont know saw them a while back, but cant wait to see them in my hand, although they look ok, if you ask me. Tim, cool stuff with PS, I'm liking those combination És+Louis.....interesting. |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:40:00 PM Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Soemthing I just found, these are claimed to be the Kobe 3s, hideous if you ask me.
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johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:42:00 PM Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Another pic....
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Aron Tecleab
(42)
| 9:05:00 PM Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Is it just me, or has Reebok just turned into one of those offshore copycat companies? If the TMAC 5 and the Wade 1.3 were to have a down-syndromed lovechild, it would be these kicks right here.
Maybe I've just hyped on Starbucks and can't see straight, but that's definetly what I'm seein'. Just my two cents. Peace and much romancipation. |
Aron Tecleab
(42)
| 9:50:00 PM Wednesday, May 30, 2007
In case anyone is confused, I'm talking about those A.I. 11's. God, how blatant can you get?
TMAC 5 + Wade 1.3 + RBK disfiguration = AI 11
Just my two cents. Peace and much romancipation. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 4:55:00 AM Thursday, May 31, 2007
hej Tim
You need to look out for the shape of your shoes, you got some good ideas but most of them look like Baby shoes, show us your hand drawings of those, that would be nice!
cheers |
Rich Benares
(644)
| 10:12:00 AM Thursday, May 31, 2007
Chris: Actually Tim's shape is pretty much on point. The reason I think they look like baby shoes is that overstuffed tounge that is prevalent in all skate shoes. These are all skate shoes that are inspired by BBall players. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 3:29:00 AM Friday, June 01, 2007
Rich the skate shoes look nice I know, I was thinking about the two basketball shoes!
I really like the Lakai one, with the vulcaniced outsole! I´d rock that!
Are you guys all doin the AJ XX3 theme?
cheers |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 12:51:00 PM Friday, June 01, 2007
I think the shape is on point. BUt does anyone know why the toongue has to be so big on boarding shoes? |
tim awalludin
(200)
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| 2:01:00 PM Friday, June 01, 2007
thanks rich.
cristoph: it's cool. i get the point. the lebron V is the only basketball one. the Bandel is a tennis shoe. thanks for lookin out, i'm not perfect.
johnny: i skateboard. and personally, i feel there really isnt that much of an importance performance wise for the big toungue. it's mostly a style thing. pick up a skating mag and look how style driven skateboarding is. the big tongue thing is starting to die down a bit. look at some older shoes compared to some now. |
Phil Padilla
(77 )
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| 3:10:00 AM Saturday, June 02, 2007
Hey just thought I'd post a skate shoe I designed yesterday and today. It's a higher cut skate shoe with an EVA midsole, triple-stitched toe and ollie area, etc. Comments welcome.
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Rich Benares
(644)
| 2:06:00 AM Sunday, June 03, 2007
Tim, youre right. There isnt any sort of tech advantage with the fat tongues. When i was younger skate shoes didnt have the fat tongues and and it wasnt really cool looking to tie your shoes tight enough for them to stay on. So I used to roll up some socks and stuff the shoe so that I could keep a good fit and not have to tie my shoes to make them feel snug. It was hard keeping that sock in place when you actually skated in the shoe, so maybe that was a bigger trend than I ever thought and skate companies saw a need for a fatter tongue |
Jean-Cclaude Kabongo
(67)
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| 11:42:00 PM Monday, June 04, 2007
CONGRAT. JUSTIN T. I GUESS THIS IS A DREAM WE ALL TRY TO ACCOMPLISH ON THIS WEBSITE. TWO THUMBS UP MAN. |
stevie stewsilv
(1)
| 3:56:00 AM Wednesday, June 06, 2007
hey does anyone know when the KG ratings will be up on the site for the KOBE II's or how they COMPARE to the LEBRON IV's or JORDAN XXII's. just trying to decide wast kicks to cop TO BALL IN. Aight thanks |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 2:34:00 PM Wednesday, June 06, 2007
Nice shoe Phil, not that much of a boarding fan. But I've never heard of a high cut shoe, cool idea. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445)
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| 8:29:00 AM Friday, June 15, 2007
I just came up with a Kobe dunkman
cheers
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Jason Cooper
(44)
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| 7:27:00 PM Friday, June 15, 2007
As I start to do more footwear sketching I'm having trouble explaining my designs verbally. I was wondering where you guys learnt the technical side of footwear design such as the technologies, materials and different parts to the shoe.
I've learnt a load just reading this forums and checking the Artist series but was just intrested in where you guys learnt your stuff?
(sorry if this topic has been bought up previously in general discussion) |
Nick Huber
(154)
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| 12:30:00 AM Saturday, June 16, 2007
jason here is everything your looking for
http://boards.core77.com/viewtopic.php?t=11750
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Nick Huber
(154)
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| 12:31:00 AM Saturday, June 16, 2007
ok well maybe not everything but its a really good place to start |
stephen christian
(402)
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| 7:53:00 PM Tuesday, June 19, 2007
nike air bound 3, dark concord/black-concord. i can't find any good pics. plus i'd love to get my mits on a pair...10.5, if anyone's got em. |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 3:56:00 AM Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Christoph nice, although he has that typical dunk, which is simular except from a full side view. |
Carlos Bravo Arenal
(46)
| 4:34:00 PM Wednesday, June 20, 2007
hi everyone!
i´m working on a shoe render about Ricky Rubio, who is a very young spanish player.
he debuted on the ACB (Spanish League) at the age of 14!! and he´s actually just 16 years old.
it is a concept about a convertible shoe (hi/lo), using two removable velcro straps that cross on the rear. RR simbol on the rear and "14" on the outsole, using my old concept about the "81" outsole for kobe bryant i posted here one year ago.
I still working on it, so any coments/ideas are really welcome. Thanks!
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/sneakerce/michael%20jenkins/RR3-1.jpg[/IMG]
outsole:
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/sneakerce/michael%20jenkins/rickymesenger4.jpg[/IMG]
this was my old kobe concept:
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/sneakerce/michael%20jenkins/kobetwo.jpg[/IMG]
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Carlos Bravo Arenal
(46)
| 4:36:00 PM Wednesday, June 20, 2007
sorry, i´ll try it again:
hi everyone!
i´m working on a shoe render about Ricky Rubio, who is a very young spanish player.
he debuted on the ACB (Spanish League) at the age of 14!! and he´s actually just 16 years old.
it is a concept about a convertible shoe (hi/lo), using two removable velcro straps that cross on the rear. RR simbol on the rear and "14" on the outsole, using my old concept about the "81" outsole for kobe bryant i posted here one year ago.
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Carlos Bravo Arenal
(46)
| 4:36:00 PM Wednesday, June 20, 2007
outsole
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Travis Peterson
(123)
| 10:03:00 PM Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Sweet concept on the outsole. |
johnny szabo
(890)
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| 7:10:00 AM Thursday, June 21, 2007
Likin the outsole and the style of your sketches, keep it up bro! |
joe sattler
(77)
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| 5:09:00 PM Saturday, June 23, 2007
KG administrators- I was wondering if you guys were going to put last months freestyle contest in the list with the other contests. At the moment it is not in there and so it is impossible to get to. |
Ben Adams-Keane
(184)
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| 7:48:00 PM Sunday, June 24, 2007
Yeah I was wondering that too Joe.
Here's a sequel I did to JT's And 1 Cornering Mid. After I saw the shoe on zappos.com I thought it was awesome, and I was inspired to do a sequel. I remembered that Justin originally intended the shoe to have a "lace-strap" system (or something like that), so I tried to incorporate a unique lockdown system. The shoe is also meant to be very lightweight.
Feedback welcome!
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Travis Peterson
(123)
| 4:47:00 PM Monday, June 25, 2007
Ben: That is really sweet man I like it. Do you use all colored pencil or do you have marker underneath?
Also, anyone: what is the other website that a few of you guys post on...i can't ever remember...core something maybe? |
Ben Adams-Keane
(184)
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| 5:00:00 PM Monday, June 25, 2007
Thanks Travis! Usually I lay down the main color in marker, which in this case was blue and black. Once I've done that, I use colored pencil to add highlights/shading.
The website you're talking about is boards.core77.com. It's a great place to post your work. |
stephen christian
(402)
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| 11:24:00 PM Monday, June 25, 2007
so...is it too early for a greg oden theme? i'm sure you're already on this one, KG... |
Ryan Holler
(1145)
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| 1:18:00 PM Tuesday, June 26, 2007
Here are comparison photos of a recent disection of two shoes, the Starbury II ($15) vs. the Adidas ClimaCool Response ($75).
Lest anyone be deceived by the thicker midsole of the adidas, I should point out that sockliner in the Starbury II is thicker than the one in the adidas, making up for most of that difference. This point is not visible at the forefoot and midfoot photos of the Starbury because, regretably, I did not cut completely through the sockliner in those areas. You can see it in the heel photo however. Another difference you can see, in favor of the Starbury, is that it has an extra, super-soft layer of foam cushioning under the heel of the sockliner---not found in the adidas.
The adidas ClimaCool Response is constructed with a combination of PU and PU-coated leather (a.k.a. "action leather"). You can actually see the difference between the two materials in the bottom left image where the upper material is sandwiched between the midsole and outsole---the white fiber of PU on the medial side vs. the grey grain of PU-coated leather on the lateral side.
The Starbury II upper is made of PU throughout and is lined with a slightly thinner layer of foam padding than the ClimaCool Response.
The shoes' tongues are quite different. The adidas has a traditional foam/mesh tongue. The Starbury has a thinner but more modern seamless foam/mesh sleeve (or bootie) which runs forward through the toe of the shoe.
One last point I'd like to make is that I like the cradled design of the heel bed in the adidas ClimaCool Response. Seems it would be quite comfy and stable. However, I have worn neither of these shoes, as they are both sample size 9.
I'll refrain at the point of actually scoring this comparison. You can do that for yourself.
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Rich Benares
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| 4:39:00 PM Tuesday, June 26, 2007
I now have a closet FULL of Starburys. I have about 5 to 6 pairs of the cross overs and about 5 pairs of the Starbury IIs. Best bang for my buck, if I ever find them in stock at Steve and Barrys! |
justin taylor
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| 2:47:00 PM Wednesday, June 27, 2007
BEN: Nice work. Glad to see that my work could inspire someone. |
Ben Adams-Keane
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| 12:44:00 AM Thursday, June 28, 2007
Thanks Justin. Glad you like it. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
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| 6:51:00 AM Thursday, June 28, 2007
he ben his really i a nice design |
johnny szabo
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| 4:19:00 PM Thursday, June 28, 2007
I wanna pick up a pair of Starburys. Nice job Ben, I commented on NT. |
Rich Benares
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| 8:34:00 PM Thursday, June 28, 2007
Johnny where you at? Maybe I can lend a hand. :)
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johnny szabo
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| 6:32:00 AM Friday, June 29, 2007
Amm Im in Hungary, but Ima get some picked up by my cousins who are in canada and coming here over the summer. Thanks a lot though. Heres a couple of sketches. These were inspired by grape plants...lol....I was at my grandparents's place. But I think they would suit Kobe, let me know what yall think.
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johnny szabo
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| 6:33:00 AM Friday, June 29, 2007
Another one.
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johnny szabo
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| 6:34:00 AM Friday, June 29, 2007
A simple shox.
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johnny szabo
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| 6:35:00 AM Friday, June 29, 2007
SOmething a bit far fetched.
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Travis Peterson
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| 1:53:00 AM Sunday, July 01, 2007
http://p087.ezboard.com/fniketalkfrm7.showMessage?topicID=141764.topic
Check it out...someone thought Sindri's rendering might be a leak of the XXIII...I will admit it's a clean rendering..I hope its ok that I burst their bubble. |
johnny szabo
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| 9:56:00 AM Tuesday, July 03, 2007
Have yall seen the LeBRon 5?
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Christoph Döttelmayer
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| 3:03:00 AM Wednesday, July 04, 2007
yes I have and I can´t see it coming yet!
it looks just boring compared to the IV´s |
Travis Peterson
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| 10:49:00 AM Wednesday, July 04, 2007
I agree with Christoph...its just lackluster. The shape is weird, there's nothing special-looking about it, it doesn't have any return-to-classic lines like the IV. I loved the IV...still gotta get my pair but they're still available here for like $90. |
Christoph Döttelmayer
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| 4:50:00 AM Thursday, July 05, 2007
there´s a big story behing the show though, I just saw some stuff where they got their inpiration from , once you see it you understand the design better, but stillit´s not a shoe that I couldn´t wait to buy |
Ryan Holler
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| 11:03:00 PM Thursday, July 05, 2007
Guys, I posted this template over on the "Running..." thread. I created this based on the layout of a basketball shoe template that Jason Mayden shared with us a couple years ago. Here are both of them. These should help you guys with your proportions. The 1-ups are for big renderings and the 4-ups are for smaller sketches.
(Johnny, judging from your sketches above, proportion is something you need to work hard on improving. These should come in handy for you. Save them to your computer and print them out. And be sure to show us your new sketches after you start using them.)
RUNNING
1-up: 4-up:
BASKETBALL
1-up: 4-up: |
Ryan Holler
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| 11:10:00 PM Thursday, July 05, 2007
Jason Mayden, from Jordan Brand, originally created the basketball shoe template. A few months ago I wanted one for running shoes, so I built the running shoe template based on Jason's layout.
Here's one of Jay-May's renderings (of D.E.'s design) I laid over the template just to show how closely he followed it.
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johnny szabo
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| 9:22:00 AM Saturday, July 07, 2007
I see what youre sayin, Ill do that. Thank you very much. |
Rich Benares
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| 4:33:00 PM Tuesday, July 10, 2007
My latest pick up. They kinda feel wierd on my feet, but maybe it might need some breaking in. I probably would just display it somewhere too haha. Hey Ryan, if I sent you the shoe with return postage would you sign it? :)
R1ch
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Ryan Holler
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| 8:07:00 PM Tuesday, July 10, 2007
Of course I would, Rich. I'd feel very honored. Thanks for buying it. Does the shoe feel a bit too roomy in the forefoot? That was the only issue I had with them when I got mine. I suggested they fix it but I honestly don't know if they did. I added some Dr. Scholls liners under the factory liner and they felt fine. I played about 6 rec league games in them. I also thought they could've carried the ankle/heel counter padding down closer to the midfoot. |
Rich Benares
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| 8:47:00 PM Tuesday, July 10, 2007
It didnt feel roomy at all. In all honesty I wasnt looking for anything techincal with the shoe, only because this is more or less more for collections sake ( I buy any shoe if they look good no matter the brand ) and more importantly to show support for all the peeps here on KG that have helped me out with tips and critiques :)
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tim awalludin
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| 10:37:00 PM Tuesday, July 10, 2007
awww what a little sweetheart!
rich you're the bestest!
are those for sale nation-wide/cleveland area? it'd be nice to tell my mom i have that shoe designer's e-mail address! |
Rich Benares
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| 10:55:00 PM Tuesday, July 10, 2007
**awww what a little sweetheart!
rich you're the bestest!**
Ok so I did sound a bit cheesy....lol |
Rich Benares
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| 12:08:00 AM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
I saw these today at Payless and I thought, while the design isnt 100% original. Its a pretty nice looking shoe.
Ive been on this quest to find shoes I like at the lowest cost possible brand or no brand.
Ill post some pics of recent pic ups in a bit
Here are the Dunkman Hamptons 24.99 at Payless
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Rich Benares
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| 12:11:00 AM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Air Zoom Legend $29.99
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Rich Benares
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| 12:12:00 AM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Sean John Mansion $10.00
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Tony Hardman
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| 1:59:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
I like those sean John's except for the seam on the toe...seems to take away from the clean aesthetic. But I am sure I ahve seen a lot of high end dress shoes with the same application. Maybe on the white it's not as appealing.
Ryan: your shoe looks great! I need to find a nearby walmart so I can cop! |
Tony Hardman
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| 2:33:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Hey Guys,
Here are a few kicks I did that are out or will be out shortly:
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Tony Hardman
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| 2:34:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
oh yeah. Right click and "open in new window" to see a larger view. Unfortunately, they are all kids so can't test 'em out on the court. LOL. But that's probably for the best. D'Oh! |
johnny szabo
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| 2:43:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Nice pick ups. Oh I gotta pick up one of Ryans kicks. |
Ryan Holler
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| 3:38:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Thanks, T. Nice SK8ers yourself, there. Those are sweet. |
Travis Peterson
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| 10:32:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Here is my current work and first work with my new scanner. Let me introduce it for y'all. It is a Kobe conept with Zoom Air in the heel. The toe is subject to change but is now a Foamposite-inspired thing I don't really know yet I want it to be lightweight and flexible (quick question when the toe is covered with the material is it called double-lasted?). It has a carbon fiber shank plate that comes up the side on the lateral arch for stability. Aiding to the stability issue is the TPU toe strap and connected TPU piece that goes to the heel. Then comes the coolest part. The upper strap is removable. The logo on the back is connected to the heel piece with magnets on the edges (sketches will come). The logo is connected to the strap which can be removed and the logo can be replaced with a normal logo (without the strap). Let me know what you think!
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Rich Benares
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| 11:18:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Double Lasted: The use of two pieces of fabric in the upper. One is sewn in the traditional way - either Strobel slip-lasted or slip-lasted, while the other is kept loose until the midsole is attached. Then it is wrapped under the midsole before the outersole is attached, thereby covering the midsole and adding support and protection to the shoe.
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Travis Peterson
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| 11:19:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Thanks for droppin that knowledge Rich. |
Rich Benares
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| 11:39:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
No problem, but I cant take all the credit.. its from a list I have from several years ago. That I got from a running website.
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Rich Benares
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| 11:40:00 PM Wednesday, July 11, 2007
I found the site addy. You guys enjoy :)
http://www.runningnetwork.com/productreviews/glossarys01.html |
johnny szabo
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| 6:14:00 AM Thursday, July 12, 2007
Travis, good job, looks better then the Kobe 3, thatsfor sure. I cant really see Kobe doin Foamposite though. And I think the midsole is a bit too thick, would add extra weight which he wouldnt like.....good job though. |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 12:19:00 PM Monday, July 16, 2007
Nice leopard print!
Thanks JB for giving me credit about leopard...even if just for women...;)
Ciaoooo
Pietro |
Rich Benares
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| 12:54:00 PM Monday, July 16, 2007
^ lol... checks in the mail? |
johnny szabo
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| 1:21:00 PM Monday, July 16, 2007
Did you get anything for that Pietro? |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 2:25:00 PM Monday, July 16, 2007
I don't have any relationship with Jordan Brand except chatting with designers here on kicksguide or over other sites.
It's funny because when I posted my shoe, I had received a lot of comments saying leopard print was too much for a Jordan shoe (which is sometime intended just for classic clean style, while i believe there is room for Wild style, given MJ's wild cmpetitor spirit on court).
...so now seeing cheetah displayed over real Jordan Brand shoe (Air Jordan XI low I.E.!!!) makes me even more confident about my ideas ;)
Ciaoooo
Pietro |
johnny szabo
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| 5:57:00 AM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
NO dought Pietro yu have some insanely good ideas! |
Ben Adams-Keane
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| 4:16:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
I actually think the leopard print looks WAY better on your design than on those XI IE's, Pietro. The print combined with the patent is way too much for me.
I just wanted to get feedback on my And1 Cornering II design. I've developed it some more since I last posted it.
BTW, right-click, "view image", to see in best resolution.
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Ben Adams-Keane
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| 4:16:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
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Ben Adams-Keane
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| 4:17:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
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Rich Benares
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| 4:54:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Ben thats an excellent job. Knowing how old you are and how much more time you have to develop I can honestly say ( if you stay on course ) you will have a very promising career in the footwear industry. Keep up the good work. Im glad to see someone so young be able to grasp what it takes to design a shoe as oppose to creating a pretty picture and also take all the critisisms as well as suggestions and apply them to your product. Good Job again :)
R1ch |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 5:46:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Ben: your Cornering II design looks very good!
I think the only functional downside i can find is the top strap which i believe would be difficult to fix, especially top and bottom row of straps seem to work in a bad angle...I believe the effect of that combination of forces will result in a force that will fold the heel counter like panel that serves also as strap locker.
I also think lock down pressure is a bit too much concentrated on soft parts of the ankle (top ankle, frontal tendons) so you need to cushion it very well.
Beside that the design is very cool and i also like how you have combined different styles for presentation to seek your own way (i.e. zen, justin and even tony's attention in studying each shoe angle - cool outsole too).
My only advice for renderings is maybe to slightly work them with photoshop to improve a bit the contrast (if my screen is correct...).
Nice stuff!!!
Ciaoooo
Pietro
P.S.: it would be cool to see the comments of og. Cornering designer ;)...Justin...
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Ben Adams-Keane
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| 6:29:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Thanks for the comments guys!
Rich: Thanks man! Hopefully I can stay on course and keep doing what I'm doing....that's really my goal for the next few years.....and maybe to make the finals in a few more contests ;-)
Pietro: Thanks a lot dude! I did realize the straps would add some pressure to the ankle. That's why I had the booty go all the way up to the ankle. I did not think of the angle of those top and bottom straps...that's a very good point.
I'm glad you caught on to me combining the different means of presentation. I didn't think anyone would. I figured since this was sort of a tribute to JT, I might as well throw in some of the styles of other KG greats.
That's another good point about the contrast. That seems to be something I'm not so good at since most of my stuff is hand-done. Do you have any advice on improving the contrast in ps? I really wouldn't know where to start, and I do think that could help my presentation a lot.
PS: Justin already commented on the 1st version of my design a few pages back....although it would be cool to hear more in-depth thoughts from him. |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 7:01:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Ben: contrast/brightness regulation is very important because it's difficult to scan images just like you have designed them, so a little refinement work is necessary.
The command should be in the "Image" >>> "Modify" menu...i'm not sure because i have italian version which has italian command names...
What i usually do is to work both on lightness and contrast to be sure that background is white and then the colors of design are net and bright like I've designed them...
There is no rule about that, just your own sensitivity which will improve along the way...each time we talk about renderings/photoshop/... we say "you will improve with practice"...and that's the truth.
The more you work with them the more you become good.
So make your experiments and go with what you feel it's better, trying to improve it time after time.
After brightness/contrast you can also play with "color balance" and "hue/saturation" commands which are VERY powerful to obtain colors like you want.
NOTE: picture brightness/contrast also depends on your pc screen calibration, so be sure it is correct ;)
Rendering/presentation styles: no problem, trying different styles is correct, so you will be able to find your own way and you can shift through diff styles easily.
Ciaooo
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Ben Adams-Keane
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| 10:29:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Thanks for that advice Pietro. I actually used the hue/saturation function to render the regional colors for this shoe. It's very powerful and easy to use.
Anyways I'll keep your advice in mind and hopefully it will help get my renderings to the level I'd like them to be at. |
Ryan Holler
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| 11:32:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Hey guys, I've been knocked off by PEAK, Shane Battier's brand...
Here's the original...
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Brian Moughty
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| 11:54:00 PM Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Pietro- Thanks for pointing that out...I never realized that was leopard print...Just figured it was gold elephant print...I need to tell some of the lady leopards at my school bout that now... |
Christoph Döttelmayer
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| 4:04:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Oh man Ryan, that really sucks, I´m sorry to see that!
I was just talking ti my boss the other day how stupid that is! |
johnny szabo
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| 6:32:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Damn, sorry to hear that Ryan, that was a really nice shoe you did. Ben really nice stuff, opne thing that bothers my eyes are the angles of the little strp pieces or I dont know what to call em on the heelpiece, maybe make the angle a bit different or make the line a bit more curved. Other then that sick job on that design. Hands down, if we compare it to your age, man I'm jelous. Good work, keep it up! |
Thomas Le
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| 6:53:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Yeah its a shame. I wish you could be compensated somehow. But like I said in the other thread, they look pretty decent even though they left out some cool details. Im still looking for a pic of my huarache that got ripped off. I forgot to save the pic. |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 8:07:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Ryan: ...it is really a sad thing...I believe they could afford buying original design from you...I don't believe it could be too expensive for them...
Anyway I hope things will change in China...the other day they have executed (!) the minister of economy due to a corruption case regarding imitating products...I'm totally against capital punishment, but they seem to start to take care of companies knocking off everything from westerrn countries...we will see...
Thomas: I've saved my own Qyordan (the name was something like that...i believe it is the chinese translation of "Jordan") knock off on my home pc, so I could have saved even yours. Have you tried to look for the pictures here on Kicksguide? maybe in the first "general discussion" topic.
Ciaooo
Pietro |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 8:13:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
...another view...
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stephen christian
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| 8:49:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
execution for knockoffs? wow... |
paul boucher
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| 9:06:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Note to all of the companies ripping designs off of this website:
If you are going to steal someones design and not compensate them for it, the least they could do is send you a pair of the shoes you are knocking off to the person who designed it. I mean really.
PB |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 9:13:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
...the execution was for corruption related to factories producing copied products...i believe...i'll try to find the article!
ciaooo |
Lei Wang
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| 9:48:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Ryan, I suggest you to open a new topic "knock off designs from KG artists". I can probably post 10 designs that have been knocked off including yours, Pietro's, Thomas' and mine. |
Chung Dha Lam
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| 11:10:00 AM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
A disclaimer is a small thing that can prevent them or just scare them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disclaimer
Its hard to find online design theft. Cause its bit your word against there's.
http://www.red-dot.sg/Concept/concept_2006/property_protection.htm
http://jenjen.typepad.com/stoppiracy/2006/07/how_to_protect_.html
The lowest link is best i think.
Cause this is said on the site
Always include your Terms of Use (TOU), and/or Angel Policy, or End User License Agreement (EULA) in your files. I recommend providing this policy during check out on your site, and / or including it as a JPG format file inside your kit. This way it will show up in your customer’s graphics browser as they use elements in your kit.
Include the FBI Warning Statement in your TOU, EULA or Angel Policy: "Warning: The unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement, including infringement without monetary gain, is investigated by the FBI and is punishable by up to 5 years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000." By posting this statement on your site, and including it in your EULA or Terms of Use and/or Angel Policy, you help educate your customers. [Resource: http://www.fbi.gov/ipr/ ] |
Lei Wang
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| 12:06:00 PM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Thanks for the info but I don't think it will do anything. None of those companies care about FBI. |
johnny szabo
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| 1:25:00 PM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Its kinda sad that we have to wory about stuff like this. |
Chung Dha Lam
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| 4:02:00 PM Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Pretty sad that its most chinese companies who do this. while allot of chinese people, are good designers. Sad there are bad designers/companies who steels designs stuff.
Too bad allot of beginning design student think its best too copy design.
I've been making skins and mods for a game for few years. I learned myself best way to make skins , but allot beginning skinner take my skins for base and edit small things and say they made it.
I really hate it when someone steals design and I will never steal, cause I know how hard it is for designers to make things. To bad allot of beginners think is easy to edit stuff instead of begin from a clean sheet. |
bruno antonelli
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| 3:30:00 PM Thursday, July 19, 2007
It depends from where you look at it.
first of: it is a chance for you all to see what a drawing on a web site can magically become a product, and the one who drew it, can claim it put some picture in a portfolio....etc... it offers a plus, as somebody considered your idea as a marketing value. the bad point is you didn't have a chance to experience the development of your idea, all the steps u should take from a rendering to a product etc....
second point, If you dont want to be ripped off, then challenge yourself with a more futuristic, difficult to build, piece of footwear and then you will see their impossibility to copy.
I am not wondering why this shoe instead of this other shoe is been knocked off, and it won't stop it until you all stop drawing simple hoops shoes the way they have been built for the last 35 years, I mean an upper over a mid sole over an outsole with whatever plastic thing in between....
I would take this opportunity here to question completely the footwear, something nobody knows how to build it or something that will take these clever copy cats4 years to release it.....that means never.
with that written, I hope i have offended nobody's sensibility this time...........
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Chung Dha Lam
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| 4:51:00 PM Thursday, July 19, 2007
I donno if it is possible to design a shoe that can not be made, cause mostly if its can not be made it would be a bad design actually.
And if you do design a total new closing mechanism or any new tech probably not the smartest to send in here. Cause they can easily steal it, but best to get a patent for it so you get legal protection. But its very expensive to get a patent.
Probly still best to stick with velcro, laces and other kind of fastners. I can't think would be possible to design a shoe that cant be made. |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 5:27:00 PM Thursday, July 19, 2007
Bruno:
your point of view is very interesting and challenging...but...imagine i have a revolutionary idea for making a shoe completely out of carbon fibre or an idea to create smart studs for soccer boots, well, i will never post them here or in other sites.
If i have an idea for a new type of construction, feasible in 5-10 years from now I think I will not post it here.
I think a lot of persons have eyes wide open on here and it's too "easy" to take inspiration from fresh minds.
On the other side I believe this site is a big aid for young designers willing to improve their skills. But you have to know that for getting exposure you risk that your ideas could be used from greedy people.
I also would like to move the discussion on a different theme now.
FOOTWEAR DESIGN IS DEAD
Just check the right side of this site...
Best designer in best companies to see their design dropped, while the "retro it all" movement is gaining more and more yards...in the name of pure PROFIT...
In 2003 Tinker Hatfield have said (see Crooked Tongues interview) that at that time it was almost impossible to create new and inovative products having to go through so many hurdles (marketing groups, regional groups...)...his most successful and inovative designs were created putting the ear to the ground and listening to the heart beat of different cultures, countries, neighbourhoods...it was impossible to do that in 2003, imagine today!
To me is a huge shame to see such a big amount of talent (my friend designers own tons of that) so under-employed by companies.
I would like to listen to other voices...Am I the only fool perceiving this???
Ciaoooo
Pietro
P.S.: said that, I still LOVE to design shoes! |
Ryan Holler
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| 12:38:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
I understand where you're coming from, Pietro, but I don't agree.
Tinker delivered gound-breaking shoe design at a time when the footwear industry was primed for it. The stars were aligned... The fitness craze/industry was booming, Nike Air was young, and PU and EVA foams were new shoe manufacturing mediums. And there was still a very clear line between fashion and performance footwear, which was swiftly obliterated by Nike.
That environment can never be recreated. It's gone. It's extremely difficult to make anything other than small incremental improvements in footwear technology anymore. So the change-craving market has to rely more on fashion elements than technology. And fashion, being the circular cycle that it is, is going to deliver "retro" trends.
FOOTWEAR DESIGN IS NOT DEAD and it never will be. It's just going through a period that looks a bit gloomy from your/our vantage point. We have a strong bent toward hoop shoes here. Hi-tops for casual wear is nowhere near as popular as it used to be. And though it may never be as strong as it once was, it will likely be stronger in the future.
But if you're a running shoe designer at Asics, Brooks or Mizuno, or if you worked for Puma, you'd laugh your a$$ off at the notion of footwear design being dead.
I know you typed that line as much for shock value as anything else. But it does open an interesting discussion. |
Tony Hardman
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| 2:43:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
Interesting discussion guys!
Yes, the exciting athletic market that we once knew is now gone. Being a part of sport culture is now more of a commonality than the movement it once was. Leading performance footwear companies are scratching their heads as their hoops and running shoe sales plummet despite many efforts to revive it. The bottom line, as Ryan said, is that "tech" is not fashionable for everyday so much anymore. People got played out after years of this dominating and are looking for something else. The problem is, nobody know WHAT that something else is, so we'll continue to see nonsensical material and colorway "exclusives" until this fad exhausts itself and SOMEBODY has the balls to step up with the next "IN" thing. I don't think anyone will be able to foresee what this "thing" will be- it will just happen magically as Jordan's partnership with Nike.
What saddens me is that BALLS used to determine who was on top and why they were the ones people followed. Nike specifically has now fallen into the trap of FOLLOWING half a$$ companies that deal in trendiness and has left their pride in innovation behind. It seems that the corporate monster they have become as a result of their years of dominance has now left them trapped inside of their own box. They have stood by "performance only" for so long, that once loyal customers now feel cheated by their inability to evolve in any way except by following the current fads to hold market share and selling out on all they stood for to keep dollars coming in. After all, it is a business. (cont'd) |
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| 3:03:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
I am talking about Nike/Jordan in particular because of my own feelings for the company AND the fact that they have become the very benchmark by which footwear sales and design is measured.
Granted, the methods by which shoes are made are actually very old, and as Ryan said, difficult to change to say the least. And perhaps a solution to THAT will bring the change. It seems strange though that they haven't experimented with some new and innovative footwear SOLUTIONS for today's society that aren't necessarily sport-related. Just life-related! This applies to all companies I suppose. How come nobody can design a comfortable casual shoe for the blue-collar worker that looks cool and feels good? You can't tell me there's no customer for that! I used to be on my feet walking hard for 11 hours a day. My soles were falling off in 2 weeks and I wasn't allowed to wear athletic shoes. Or what about a casual shoe that just works better with the foot than an Air Force one and has a completely different language than anything we've seen? Anyone seen a snowboarding/ski boot you can walk in without feeling like Frankenstein?
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Tony Hardman
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| 3:04:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
It's a very disheartening time. I hope all of you guys can stay passionate about FOOTWEAR design in general and not just hoops, because the climate is changing and it would be a hell of a waste of talent to box yourselves in. Use your love for hoops shoes to carry you over and find that same love for designing creative solutions to other activities. What do people do? How can the shoe they wear make it better? It's great that we have this forum to share our ideas and thoughts. I like what KG has done in branching out in terms of the contest themes. These are the little things that are creating the next evolution, even though we may not see it now. It's going to be a long haul, my friends but everything comes full circle. Tech WILL make a return, just not in the way you remember it. Be an artist and make the foot better with your creative talents.Keep the faith strong and your minds open! We are the future!
-T |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 5:03:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
OK Ryan, if you want to properly tell it, it's not a death case...but a DEEP COMA...;)
I live far from the biz and I believe my perspective is almost the same I have had in years, only a bit deeper, so I think my perception is quite correct.
For sure until the passion will be burning inside designers hearts all over the world footwear design will never die!!!
But there are no signals of a trend change and I have to say that in todays market both top range and mid range shoes lack of some creativity.
Sometimes low priced shoes look more interesting than the higher priced one, which shows how much the hurdles for designers become higher and higher when expectations arise.
If you look at upcoming releases, not just nike or jordan, but adidas, reebok...you can see design is stagnating...they have designers 10 times better than me and amazing resources...how is it possible?
I agree with you about Tinker initial designs...everything had to be created, there was room for revolutionize the footwear world.
But HIS words (check interview in Crooked Tongues website, you have to register first) were latter, he was talking of 2003...if it was difficult for him (having such a huge background and personality) to make marketing /managing people accept his ideas imagine an average Joe coming from whatsoever part of the world.
My provocation is kind of a wake up call, and not ato criticise designers for sure.
I'd like to see what people think, I'd like to get other designers involved into this.
Thanks and ciaooo
Pietro
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johnny szabo
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| 8:18:00 AM Friday, July 20, 2007
bruno thats an interesting point of view. But most of us just post to get feedback and if we have something revolutionary obviously you aint gonna post it here. |
Ryan Holler
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| 4:14:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
My gosh! When do you sleep, Hardman? |
Rich Benares
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| 4:28:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
TH sleeps with one eye open and one hand typing! whatta beast! |
Ryan Holler
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| 4:53:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
He's a thoroughbred.
TH, how does it feel to be worshiped by Footwear News? How much did y'all have to pay for all that ink? ;) |
bruno antonelli
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| 6:06:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
"Be an artist and make the foot better with your creative talents.Keep the faith strong and your minds open! We are the future!"
As long as we will read those kind of words, design won't die.
the future, obviously is not written, its a consequence.
the situation in the market today, what Pietro calls the frozen creativity (stagnation) isn't due to the lack of talent and commitment, its is due to the objective set by the share holders and the attempt to quantify every little corner of our industry. every shoe should pay back.
nobody can quantify the creativity, the emotion, the smart idea, THE THING that will make a precedent.
Marketing can quantify, with the power of numbers, the philosophy dripping from it the strategies the formulas......etc
but i am positive, because too much of something creates one day its opposite, because human being hasn't changed...
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bruno antonelli
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| 6:10:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
back to your comments Johnny and Pietro, what kind of feedback are you looking for?? the lines of your shoes are beautiful?? what a color blocking?? whoaoo u added a new piece of carbon nice perforations, nice rendering beautiful little window.....I don't think so.
Unfortunately, the position I am in today, doesn't allow myself to post anything more than words, and this carefully, in order to avoid any conflict or non-intentional disclosure.
In the meantime, i have hundreds of ideas like you guys that haven't hit the market still, why? because it is partly frozen.
these ideas might be too old one day...we will be gone one day.
here is the choice: either i am designing shoe with my parents technology (35 years old), either i challenge the most i can my community by producing the "unseen" here or at work
guess what, u might not get money for inspiring copy cats in and out, but you can claim and prove you were the first..... in short either you are the ones who shake the tree either you are the ones waiting for the fruits.
your call
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| 6:57:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
Guys, that's only ,midnight Pacific time....it's not that serious. LOL. KG's site posts all times as Eastern. I am somewhat of a night owl though. That's when my mind works the best: When the rest of society has gone to sleep and there is unforced peace and calm around me. It's like thinking in outerspace ;)
Bruno: I will admit that it can be hard for me to follow your English, but I think I get the gyst of what you are saying. In some ways, CREATIVITY ITSELF used to BE the precedent. People gravitated toward it and embraced it. They were excited by it as I have always been and I am not sure why it has changed for them. But now, sadly, society is composed of billions of sheep who seemingly favor rehashed trends and forced "uniqueness". Or is it that they are making that choice because that is all they have to choose from when they look at a wall of shoes? Which came first? the chicken or the egg? I suppose it goes against the natural laws of marketing and capitalism to have some Balls and put something FRESH and UNPROVEN on that wall to see if it works. But that is not a guaranteed dollar, so nevermind. I think Puma is one of only a few companies doing it. Thank you, Puma. But, in the same Token, I doubt it's translating to big dollars which will probably make it short-lived.
We will undoubtedly look back at this confused time much as we do the 80's and wonder what the hell we were thinking. Neon green crocskin and pink velvet shoes?! "What was I wearing?!!"
But let's not forget what the 80's eventually brought us: The 90's.
Everything happens for a reason. I think we are in a transition focused on materials and graphics that will eventually merge back with tech and bring us some unprecented, and beautiful product that could not have existed before due to the closed mind on fashion from the sporting goods industry. Eventually it will make sense.
-TH |
Tony Hardman
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| 7:00:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
We must be patient and continue to broaden our talents and skills while absorbing this evolution around us, so when the time comes we can spearhead the next revolution in footwear. Damn, I can NOT seem to get off of this Soapbox!!! Somebody slap me! LOL.
Audi 5000
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paul boucher
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| 8:58:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
I haven't been on here in a while, but I had to weigh in on this one. I feel that we as a society are not satisfied with what we have. We live in a society of instant gratification, but that gratification only lasts for a minute. I feel that some designers (not all) are pressed by owners, marketing annalists, and corporate drones to produce on an unprecedented level. They are run like slaves to try to come up with the next big thing that will make them their next dollar, not the next big thing that is going to be a technological wonder or an artistic masterpiece. If you look at the number of products released today and the frequency in which they are released, it has grown at an exponential rate when compared to 10, 20, even 30 years ago. They have flooded the market with half a$$ed ideas just to rush to get the next item out before their competitors so they can keep growing. If they don't grow in profit, their company shows a loss, their stocks drop, investors sell out, they lose money, and then they fire people because it was "their" design that was the problem. It most times is always about money, and that is not a bad thing. We all want to make money. The problem is when it becomes nothing more than about just money and not about a design that impresses people now, and will impress them through out time. I know that a lot of this is out of designers’ control. Designers don't design because we think that "hey this is a piece of crap, quality wise and artistically, but its what the marketing people said they needed; something different than the product we released two weeks ago, because its lost its now-ness, and we have to grow our company, because the $250 billion dollars we made last year was 2% less than the 10% growth we projected." |
paul boucher
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| 8:58:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
But hey, this is just my opinion. And please don't get me wrong, not all companies are like this, but I feel a good number of them are. I do feel that the market is in stagnation, but I don't feel it is the designers’ faults. There are a great number of factors that have contributed to this stagnation, some of which I stated above.
PB
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William Stoneback
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| 9:47:00 PM Friday, July 20, 2007
I know this isn't on the topic of discussion but I need to start getting some footwear items in my portfolio and was wondering what exactly makes a good footwear designer portfolio (as far as design, or subject, rendering)... |
Rich Benares
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| 12:28:00 AM Saturday, July 21, 2007
William the key to a good footwear portfolio is to be able to show your thought process that lead up the final design. As an example..look at Tony Hardmans Jordan submission and you will see what it takes to create a very nice, effect and more importantly professional presentation. One other key thing is for you to truly understand what you have put down on paper and be able to either defend it or find an alternative when asked by the interviewer. |
johnny szabo
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| 6:22:00 AM Saturday, July 21, 2007
Bruno, youve got a ppoint I aint sayin that. But I think dsesign aint dead, if I put it in the words of Nas and Hip-Hop. On the feedback, Im ion high school still plenty to go and since most people here are pro or better then me, they all help me move forward and get better. I look for negatives and expect those in critiqs. |
William Stoneback
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| 12:45:00 PM Saturday, July 21, 2007
Thanks for the quick and good responses so far...I look forward to submitting next months theme. |
tim awalludin
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| 2:31:00 AM Sunday, July 22, 2007
gosh man, i sure as hell hope footwear design ain't dead. i'm signing my name to a student loan that's going to total over $100,000 dollars over the next four years in pursuit of that dream. hah, either i make it or i'm a slave to debt. a slave with bad credit to boot!
footwear design wake the f@#k up. |
Rich Benares
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| 3:26:00 AM Sunday, July 22, 2007
Tim: a degree goes a long way brotha. DE himself has a degree in business. So if footwear isnt yours at the end that degree opens doors in other areas. |
Ali Parekh
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| 1:40:00 PM Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Therse shoes are the comfprtable shoes I have ever worn, its like your wearing pillows on your feet. I always destry coushining on my shoes really quickly but wth the full length air sole no damage is being done to the shoe |
Rich Benares
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| 10:12:00 PM Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Heres something I was tinkering around with last night..
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jake eadie
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| 5:54:00 AM Wednesday, July 25, 2007
I have a uni assignment/folio at the moment, which pretty much involves designing some sort of electrical device that aids in a sport, it can help a player, coach, spectator, umpire/ref in either training and/or competition or even just messing around non-competitively. Or even as a health monitor or rehibilhtaion device..
i would like to do something shoe related, as shoes are one of my passions and i know a lot abotut them thus reducing research time... but i am not forcing myself to, so if anyone has anything else please tell me
however it can be for any sport, even something as obscure as chess, or croquet.
i was just wondering if anyone has been doing a sport and thought "it would be really useful if i had a ..... now" or if anyone has any ideas that would really help a sport.
something like the nike+ kit, where the shoe can link to an ipod to motivate as well as track run distances, calerioes, speeds etc really helps promote running and gives great feedback.
it is a tough one because i dont want anything that gives a major advantage, ie shoes that make you jump higher in bball or anything that cheats the sport or makes a skill in the sport redundant!
if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
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johnny szabo
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| 10:01:00 AM Wednesday, July 25, 2007
That looks pretty good R1ch, reminds me of a mix of a bball and a boarding shoe. |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 6:26:00 PM Friday, July 27, 2007
Take a break man and look at this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jfqz7kPPHFM&mode=related&search=
Look what happens in a poor country like mine.
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Rich Benares
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| 8:42:00 PM Friday, July 27, 2007
Barbu: Thats what a few gymnatics gold medals in the 70s can do for you! lol |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 4:28:00 AM Saturday, July 28, 2007
let's all do gymnastics weeeeee! :))
here is part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcZwcfdqBfs&mode=related&search=
and part 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EIif2IZI4kM
....seems like i live in vegas :))...don't tell anybody that the income for the majority of population is 250 euro. |
johnny szabo
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| 7:56:00 AM Saturday, July 28, 2007
Its a pretty damn poor country, but itt has its nice parts to it. The landscapes are really beautiful. All the mountains, love the view. |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 12:58:00 PM Saturday, July 28, 2007
and the girls and the nice people and the colourfull life...and the girls :)...we have the nicest girls in the world! :P
here is a movie about romania...try it... interesting!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSoruzRkj7g |
stephen christian
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| 4:57:00 PM Saturday, July 28, 2007
question...is k-swiss a legitimate parkour company these days, or are they just trying to maintain an edge by going all "we're cool enough for freerunners, but still classy enough for centre court"? cool ads, regardless... |
Chung Dha Lam
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| 7:35:00 PM Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Wich of these 3 you like more. All done with marker and fineliners. Just top one i didnt do the shadow on the bottom correct.
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Barbu Alexandru
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| 9:52:00 AM Wednesday, August 01, 2007
JUST REMADE MY WEBSITE...CHECK IT OOOOUT! ;)
www.(URL DELETED: EXPLICIT CONTENT)
~~Sorry, Barbu. Let's keep it kid friendly.~~ |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 6:32:00 PM Wednesday, August 01, 2007
OOOOO...SORRY MAN I DIDN'T REALIZE! THE MUSIC...YES...OUPS! |
johnny szabo
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| 8:53:00 AM Thursday, August 02, 2007
Chung, hmmm well not my style but I think the bottom one looks best. |
Pietro Pellicelli
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| 3:32:00 PM Thursday, August 02, 2007
Ryan: I'm watching a friendly basketball game , Serbia vs Australia. Australian team has "PEAK" as technical partner...An aussie player is wearing a white/grey shoe that could be your design...I will better investigate.
Have you contacted them?
Ciaooo
Pietro |
justin taylor
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| 1:05:00 PM Friday, August 03, 2007
RYAN: Man, if you keep producing these hot designs for other companies, Wal-Mart is going to get mad! Isn't it some kind of breach-of-contract to design for 2 companies at the same time!
BEN A-K: Once again, nice work. Are you trying to make me look bad by showing me up!? J/K. That is really nice work. Your drawing skills are obviously improving, which is something I value highly, and it is nice to see that you took the time to revisit it and refine it. That s important, because there is pretty much never going to be a time when you finish a design, and it is done. We are always reworking it and reworking it. I do think it would be a bit restrictive around the ankle, though. But, hey, that's what pattern trials and fit tests are for! Also, it looks like you have 5 dots on the end of the strap. You couldn't do that on a non-Nike shoe because of the Alpha Project 5 dots that Nike used to use alot and still shows up from time to time.
Good job with the alternate views as well, because we all know that even though WE can see what is going on in our heads, MARKETING can't. That's why they are in marketing, LOL. Sorry, I had to take that little shot at marketing. (Disclaimer: our marketing is really quite good.)
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justin taylor
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| 1:15:00 PM Friday, August 03, 2007
Here is something for you designers to try out.
Your mission should you choose to accept it:
1. Design a shoe, or any product for that matter.
2. When finished, show it around to friends and family and/or anyone you think knows anything about the product you designed.
3. Gather their feedback, and rework the design accordingly.
(It is important to remember that i this step you don't have to change everything, if there are some parts you think are necessary and are important to the design, you can fight for them to stay, but you have to be able to defend those parts.)
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 until the desired design is reached. It should be something that keeps your design intent but still solves the intended problem, while being pleasing to your "focus group."
This should give you a little taste of how the design and marketing teams work together, and the process of reworking the design and tweaking it until the desired product is created. It would also be nice to see documentation of the different feedback gathered from friends and family and how you used or didn't use it. This is, of course, not mandatory, but just a little something I think would be a valuable experience for aspiring footwear designers. If you can show that you can take feedback, and execute against it, the powers that be will definately like that. Trust me.
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Chung Dha Lam
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| 2:35:00 PM Friday, August 03, 2007
Problem if you don't have a family or friend who got taste, you got a big problem. My whole msn list of 50 person only 1 is a good designer. |
justin taylor
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| 3:27:00 PM Friday, August 03, 2007
Not necessarily. Do you think every kid in the focus groups we conduct has "taste" or a good fashion sense. Almost none of them are going to be good designers, or even want to be for that matter.
It's all about taking the feedback and filtering it out. You never know where a good nugget of knowledge will come from. You can also talk to anyone who plays sports. They don't have to be super athletes, either, just people who can provide feedback. |
Chung Dha Lam
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| 4:00:00 PM Friday, August 03, 2007
Problem I know most people who arent designers only say things like or hate it with no helping comment on what parts could be improved. Other designers give better feedback then not designers. |
johnny szabo
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| 9:00:00 AM Saturday, August 04, 2007
Well great tip Justin, Chung, its gonna be youraveerage person without a taste thats gonna buy the product so after all they are the ones who have to like it. No? |
Ben Adams-Keane
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| 10:52:00 AM Saturday, August 04, 2007
Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment, Justin! I'm currently working on another version of that shoe. Hopefully I can deal with the issues you brought up. I'll try to post up some sketches in this thread. I'm currently on vacation though, so it might be a while before I do. |
Ryan Holler
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| 5:11:00 PM Saturday, August 04, 2007
Thanks for the heads-up Pietro. No, I haven't contacted PEAK yet.
Justin, Wal-Mart knows and was not amused. They couldn't act on it legally because I did the work before starting my current job. But they have directed me to a certain outside attorney... |
Ben Adams-Keane
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| 10:17:00 PM Saturday, August 04, 2007
Hey Guys,
Just wondering, did anyone else get an email from "Lori Harrod" about an Adidas design position? Obviussly I'm not qualified for this so I assumed it was sent to everyone on the site.
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Barbu Alexandru
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| 2:21:00 AM Monday, August 06, 2007
Nope...i hope to get that email some day :)) |
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| 10:49:00 AM Monday, August 06, 2007
She is an executive recruiter for Gobal Brand Search. Her info after a Google: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/137/947 |
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johnny szabo
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| 1:01:00 PM Monday, August 06, 2007
Cool kicks for Shaq, wow thats pretty big Ben. I should postin some of my recent work here. My digitals busted, gotta get a scanner. Maybe Ill get lucky although I have to get a bit older before an internship. |
Brian Moughty
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| 1:13:00 PM Monday, August 06, 2007
That reminds me...I hvan't shown any work on this board in a while...I posted this on some other sites, but I'll throw it up here..
Thanks..
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| 1:13:00 PM Monday, August 06, 2007
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Thomas Le
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| 1:36:00 PM Monday, August 06, 2007
Ben, I got the same email too. I assume they are a legit recruiting firm except they are just starting up. I assume they just want to get a good network of names and what better place than kicksguide. |
Ben Adams-Keane
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| 11:14:00 PM Monday, August 06, 2007
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Thanks for the responses. |
stephen christian
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| 5:46:00 PM Tuesday, August 07, 2007
so brian, what sort of shroud is around the ankle? it reminds me of something from the aj16 lows, where they had the magnetic convertable collar. |
stephen christian
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| 5:49:00 PM Tuesday, August 07, 2007
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stephen christian
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| 5:51:00 PM Tuesday, August 07, 2007
this was something i was working on this summer, and i haven't had a chance to enter it at all. any furthering suggestions?
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johnny szabo
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| 6:03:00 PM Tuesday, August 07, 2007
Stephen, hmm Im liking the concept, using the flightposite again, cool. I think thats actualy a manufacturable shoe. Although one thing is the anle of the swoosh, dont think that looks too good. ANd doesnt look like something Nike would do. And another thing is placing a support panel or call it whatever under the arch of the foot, know which one I mean? I think thats unnecesarry and its just extra weight. Other then that good job! |
Brian Moughty
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| 9:27:00 PM Tuesday, August 07, 2007
stephen- The ankle is similar to the XVI low...but more advanced..The cut is a lot higher and the material/build is stronger as it mimics and ankle sleeve...There is a closure system at top, and then can be flipped over, and folded down and closed again...It is for a court/street look...or just a player who wants more or less support.. |
stephen christian
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| 10:04:00 AM Wednesday, August 08, 2007
that woulda been decent for the freestyle, brian...cool idea. and johnny, i got a few cues from the ajxiii, like the support pod on the lateral side of the midfoot, i know it worked for that shoe. but there's probably a good reason we haven't seen it since. 13 is my favourite jordan, though... |
johnny szabo
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| 4:55:00 PM Wednesday, August 08, 2007
One of the best... |
Chung Dha Lam
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| 12:13:00 PM Thursday, August 09, 2007
Brain design reminds me allot of diving/sailing shoes or boots. Not sure on how you strap it or use a zipper like divers boots.
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johnny szabo
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| 4:16:00 PM Thursday, August 09, 2007
Uff that boot...is kinda ugly... |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 6:11:00 PM Thursday, August 09, 2007
You can do the moonwalk with that thing! |
stephen christian
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| 9:28:00 PM Thursday, August 09, 2007
early air trainer tread pattern...looks like the cops on 'soilent green' might've used those babies.. |
Brian Moughty
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| 11:06:00 PM Thursday, August 09, 2007
Wierd...I can def see similarities with the ankle...and the material at the toe/heel...Never seen a divers boot though...Pretty cool... |
Ryan Holler
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| 3:35:00 PM Friday, August 10, 2007
Y'all seen these? Smokin!
I'd even take that straight across toe cap. Well, on the medial side.
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Ryan Holler
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| 3:37:00 PM Friday, August 10, 2007
lateral side...
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stephen christian
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| 4:41:00 PM Friday, August 10, 2007
wow. those are downright filthy. love em. i don't care about the hate, i dig the kobes, 1 and 2s. |
johnny szabo
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| 5:20:00 AM Saturday, August 11, 2007
Medials sick, the lateral is maybew a bit too simple for my taste. But the Kobes are overall well designed, although the 3s aree really ugly on pics so far. |
Barbu Alexandru
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| 7:19:00 AM Monday, August 13, 2007
Here's a sketch i've done today after i rewatched the movie Deep Cover...cool movie i enjoy it every time.
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paul boucher
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| 9:20:00 AM Monday, August 13, 2007
Deep Cover is a great movie. I love "Larry" Fishburn in that! HAHA! |
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| 12:52:00 PM Tuesday, August 14, 2007
let's see some new pics of Li-Ning Shaq
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