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Sketch Workshop
Post your sketches, get feedback. All comments should be candid, honest, and useful. This is for NON-Artist Series themed sketches. Post any Artist Series process sketches in their respective threads.

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Nick Huber
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1:37:00 AM Sunday, March 23, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
people. use underlays. its not cheating, but your proportions will be correct.
Travis Peterson
(123Over 100 Rating)

4:40:00 PM Sunday, March 23, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Amen Nick!
I totally used to think it was cheating but then I realized it was quite a bit easier and I didn't have to worry about messing up the shape.
evil von dagger
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6:26:00 PM Sunday, March 23, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah, I totally see what is going on. I have simply went back to sketching the human foot, instead of this awkward stylizing of the human foot and in the process familiarize myself again with the subtle shapes of the foot and how it works.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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11:37:00 AM Sunday, March 30, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
fooling around... practice practice...
johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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5:49:00 AM Sunday, April 06, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
A shoe inspired by my new camera the Canon 350D, critiqs would be greatly appreciated!
Jason Wright
(87Over 50 Rating)


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7:43:00 PM Sunday, April 06, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
What do you guys mean by underlays? I can shade elements of the shoe using the dodge and burn tools without much trouble but i have issues with making the overall shape "pop" sometimes. I'm not sure if underlays have anything to do with that but I'll take any help I can get
Ryan Holler
(1145Over 1000 Rating)
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9:23:00 PM Sunday, April 06, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Jason -- An underlay is a layer of material which lays under another layer in shoe construction. BUT, what Nick is referring to, in his March 23rd comment, is a template. It can be an outline guide in the shape of a shoe or a photo of an actual shoe. It helps you to get your proportions correct. Here's one that has been passed around for years, originally provided by Jason Mayden, from Jordan Brand. I've used it several times. Download it and print it whatever size you want to work.



There are also some good ones at http://michaelditullo.com. Go there and click on TUTORIALS and then PROPORTIONS.

Lastly, if you'd like to use actual shoe photos, I recommend images from www.holabirdsports.com. They take their product photos from outsole plane level, which is perfect for use as a template. They also photograph their high-end basketball shoes from about every angle you'd want. Check out the LeBrons when you get there.
Jason Wright
(87Over 50 Rating)


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10:55:00 PM Sunday, April 06, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Okay thank's a lot! I've actually been using that template along with the ones provided on futuresole for all my renderings. I thought maybe they were referring to some shaded template of a shoe somewhere that gave the shoe its basic shape that you could just put a layer style on in photoshop or something.

And thanks for that website. I've actually been looking for one like that so I could get a better concept on the shapes from different angle. That'll be great!
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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9:09:00 PM Monday, April 28, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
my stab at the jordan brand.. err curse...
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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8:31:00 AM Friday, May 09, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
relief sketches after the pre-board exams.. whew...
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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8:33:00 AM Friday, May 09, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
another one..
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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2:00:00 AM Sunday, May 11, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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5:33:00 AM Sunday, May 11, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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4:40:00 AM Wednesday, May 14, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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11:52:00 AM Wednesday, May 14, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Cool stuff!
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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5:12:00 PM Friday, May 16, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Nice concepts archie
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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12:39:00 AM Sunday, May 18, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
thanks!
Filip Rybnik
(2)


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2:12:00 PM Monday, May 19, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
aight , my first concept, about an hour of work,
the idea is the Jordan Brand shoe for carmelo anthony , would like to hear your comments . peace

http://kicksguide.com/images/upload/13528_melo jordan.jpg
Filip Rybnik
(2)


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2:16:00 PM Monday, May 19, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=melojordanmu2.jpg

better resolution :)
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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11:49:00 PM Friday, May 23, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Looking for thoughts... I tried to bring in the elaphant look with the tusk design. I also wanted the shoe to seem big and powerful.
Some materials/colors:
elaphant print
varnished leather
translucent sole
white leather
red/black stiching
stephen christian
(402Over 200 Rating)


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9:55:00 AM Saturday, May 24, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
not sure if it would turn out too cheesy, but it looks like you could use a little ankle support, and the form and texture of the elephant's trunk could work. like a band or strap up top. just a thought.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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2:42:00 PM Saturday, May 24, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Thanks. It is just a preliminary sketch so I will try to work out any kinks at some piont. After they are worked out i'll try to put it up again. Thanks again for the input.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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4:13:00 PM Saturday, May 24, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
here is a more revised sketch. A little color and some ankle support added. Please let me know what you think.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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6:12:00 PM Saturday, May 24, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Please comment on the shoe. Much thanks.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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10:34:00 PM Saturday, May 24, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Thomas Le
(149Over 100 Rating)


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1:34:00 AM Sunday, May 25, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Not bad John. I can see that you traced Sindri's Air Zoom JP as a base for your shoe. But I suggest you try to further the sketch more so it doesn't resemble Sindri's design. Cuz as of now, that toe and the tall tongue is very similar. So keep furthering and maybe you'll find something cool and new come out of it.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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9:11:00 AM Sunday, May 25, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah I did use the Air Zoom JP as an underlay to start off my shoe. I'll keep working on it and try to post it again.
johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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12:16:00 PM Sunday, May 25, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
That was a wicked shoe....
Sal Galasso
(4)


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10:33:00 PM Monday, May 26, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
A sketch i did for the Jordan XX4 artist series thing.

What progam do yous use to get the drawings looking realistic and sharp like that? because i could use it on this.

[IMG]http://i25.tinypic.com/2dtx3yr.jpg[/IMG]
Sal Galasso
(4)


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10:35:00 PM Monday, May 26, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Sal Galasso
(4)


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10:53:00 PM Monday, May 26, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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3:10:00 PM Wednesday, May 28, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Sal, gotta start somewhere. Ideas will come up a lot better if you get the basic shape of the foot right. Sketch your shoe, or download some templates from the interent. MAke sketches of your foot.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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11:28:00 PM Friday, May 30, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
yeah Sal, i assume you draw manually, you could use templates off the internet, or even maybe pictures from magazines, place paper over it, then familiarize your hand with the general shape of the shoe, you don't have to get it right all the time though, good luck! keep us posted about your sketches.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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11:12:00 PM Sunday, June 08, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Made this prety quick. Took about an hour. I rushed so I wouldn't miss Celtics-Lakersd tip off.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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2:49:00 AM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

Matt Unterfranz
(20)


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9:51:00 AM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
any criticism is appreciated. Unfortunately, with summer school, I wasn't able to finish all the details.

Matt Unterfranz
(20)


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9:53:00 AM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
sorry, does anybody know how i can make my images smaller when i post them? my bad for taking up all that space.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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9:20:00 PM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Archie I like the concept. I love shoes with that gold/brown colorway.
Matt- If you have photoshop you can go to the program then to edit image size and set it from there. You could also use a website like photobucket or tinypic.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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9:32:00 PM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@John

thanks! I was thinking of something more of a straw mat material on the side, more summer/casual looking, but I also like your gold/brown colorway idea, it makes the shoe feel more upscale. thanks for the comments! i appreciate for taking time. anymore ideas?
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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9:52:00 PM Tuesday, June 10, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
I see what you mean with the mat and summer. Keep at it. The shoe is casual like your intent but flashy enough to turn some heads.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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1:20:00 AM Wednesday, June 11, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@John

wow.. thanks for the kind words... will work on a few more options... thanks!
johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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1:51:00 PM Thursday, June 12, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
NIce shoe Archie.
JOhn, gotta agree cant miss the NBA finals:D
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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7:55:00 PM Thursday, June 12, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
hmmm... guys, i'm having a hard time interpreting the designs and commenting on them, maybe we should indicate the inspiration behind the shoe, although this is a "sketch" workshop, it wouldn't hurt to also comment on the design, what do you guys think?

@john
i'd like to know the concept behind your sketch, zen?
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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7:58:00 PM Thursday, June 12, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@johnny

thanks!
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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7:49:00 AM Friday, June 13, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
yeah I threw it together guick like i said. My general idea was one lockdown strap. And I took color ques etc. from Zens design. Johnny I hope you didn't miss the Finals last night!
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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9:43:00 AM Sunday, June 15, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@john

wow, that's kinda flattering for your work to be an inspiration for someone elses... well.. Zen is a great designer... anymore drawings?
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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10:22:00 AM Sunday, June 15, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
an adidas concept... bubbled bounce... hehe
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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4:47:00 PM Sunday, June 15, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Archie your designs are great. Clean them up and enter them in a contest already:) I'm working on a smooth sleek looking shoe, what if for a strap i used magnets would that work? I feel that velcro may take away from its design.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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5:57:00 PM Sunday, June 15, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
what i'm talking about...
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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7:07:00 PM Sunday, June 15, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@John

Hahaha.. thanks, I have submitted some here, well, I have yet to be a finalist, that's the problem, I can doodle, but loose interest in a design quickly, too quick to clean it up, either that or I move on to do something else ... Thanks John!... Magnets? Didn't a Jordan have magnets? I'm lost for what edition it is. In my opinion, the problems I see is primarily the tensile resistance, as quick as they can fasten, it is also as quick as they can get loose. I suggest having a number of magnets placed in opposing faces/ different axes in the different faces of the shoe to counteract the tension, also consider the shape of the magnets in relation to where the shoe bends in natural movement, folds in the upper material could loosen the magnets, just my two cents... if you ask between velco and magnets, i'll go with velcro, simpler and i guess cheaper, but you're doing a concept shoe, so go with whatever you like :D good luck!
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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12:19:00 PM Friday, June 20, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
I realy want to improve on this for the next theme. Please comment.<br><img width=400 src="http://www.kicksguide.com/images/upload/13441_Under%20Armour%20copy.jpg">
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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12:21:00 PM Friday, June 20, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!

Rich Benares
(644Over 500 Rating)

12:36:00 PM Friday, June 20, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
John: Those straps are way too small. They wouldnt be able to take a lot of the stress that would be put on them. It would only cause the strap to either break or continuosly come loose from the velcro.

Also a brief description of what your intending to do would be good so that we know what your trying to do from either a material or a technological stand point.

R1ch
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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1:45:00 PM Friday, June 20, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
First off thanks for the comments. I'll try to fix the straps. I hope this pic helps you with the material/tech piont of view.
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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10:50:00 PM Friday, June 20, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@John

Hey John, a suggestion, try to sketch over the actual armourlastic shocks, you wouldn't want your shoes to be recognized as another brand, just a suggestion, sketch sketch sketch!
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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11:01:00 AM Saturday, June 21, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Will Do! Thanks
johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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3:00:00 AM Sunday, June 22, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Archie, how much do you work with one of those renderings? HOw much with markers and with PS?
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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6:05:00 AM Sunday, June 22, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@Johnny

I used to draw designs manually with pencil and paper, then scan, then color the rendering on PS. Now I do it all on the computer. I got myself a pentablet (saved up a long time and its well worth it). I draw shoes on Corel Painter then quick rendering with the airbrush. You could also do it on PS but I like the option of other coloring mediums on Painter. I can't seem to find a copy of Sketchbook here, so I got Painter instead, does the job well. I hope I answered your question.
John Deal
(347Over 200 Rating)


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1:20:00 PM Wednesday, June 25, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
Some quick work, just working on opposite contrasts. On this i just used prisma markers, a white pencil, and a black pen. Took about an hour. What do you all think?
archie tolentino
(210Over 200 Rating)


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1:51:00 AM Thursday, June 26, 2008    Good Post! Bad Post!
@ john

the general shape of the shoe looks... fragmented, for a lack of the word. The overall massing looks bulky and ununified, predominantly on the achiles/heel side. I suggest you view works from other designers, try to study the lines and strokes of their designs. Rendering wise, I can assume that you invested quite an amount of time and judging from your other works, you definetly improved! Add a little toning and shading and your work will surely pop-out. Hope this helps! See you around!
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